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Cabernet and Pray

Hosted by: Jeremy Jernigan is a former megachurch pastor turned wine-loving theologian who’s not afraid to ask the hard questions about Christianity. As the host of Cabernet and Pray, Jeremy blends deep theological exploration with cultural critique, all while sipping exceptional wines from around the world. With a background in ministry and a passion for progressive faith, Jeremy invites listeners into raw, honest conversations about doubt, deconstruction, and rediscovering Jesus beyond evangelicalism. Whether he’s unpacking a problematic Bible passage, challenging toxic church traditions, or exploring the beauty of grace with a guest, Jeremy offers a fresh take on faith that’s thoughtful, provocative, and deeply rooted in love. If you're seeking a faith that holds space for curiosity, nuance, and a good Pinot Noir, you're in the right place.

Sip the wine, shake your faith.

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The Atheist Pentecostal (with Colten Barnaby) | Ep. 65

What happens when someone can no longer believe in God—but still can’t let go of Jesus, Pentecostalism, or the church that formed them? In this episode, Jeremy sits down with Colten Barnaby, who calls himself an...
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Cathedrals of Connection (with Matt Mattson) | Ep. 64

What if the most sacred spaces in your life aren’t churches at all, but ordinary moments of shared humanity? In this episode of Cabernet and Pray, Jeremy sits down with author and spiritual guide Matthew G. Matson to...
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Beyond Deconstruction (with James McGrath) | Ep. 63

What comes after deconstruction? In this episode, I sit down with James McGrath to talk about what it looks like to move beyond tearing faith down and begin the slower, braver work of rebuilding it with honesty,...
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The Courage to Differ Graciously (with Brian McLaren) | Ep. 62

What if the real spiritual crisis isn’t disagreement, but how we disagree? In this episode, we explore why certainty has replaced curiosity and why faith so often becomes brittle instead of beautiful. We see what...
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The Root and the Fruit (with David Hayward) | Ep. 61

What if the faith you inherited isn’t the faith you actually want to keep? In this episode, I sit down with David Hayward—yes, the Naked Pastor himself—to talk about the root systems beneath our beliefs, the fruit...
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Between the Pulpit and the Pub (with Gavin Linderman) | Ep. 60

What happens when a pastor decides the real mission field isn’t inside the church walls… but somewhere between the pulpit and the pub? In this episode, Gavin Linderman and I dive into the beautifully messy overlap of...
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A Beautiful Year (with Diana Butler Bass) | Ep. 59

What if beauty isn’t something we chase, but something that’s been waiting for us all along? In this episode of Cabernet & Pray, we sit down with author and theologian Diana Butler Bass to talk about what it means...
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Separation of Church and Hate (with John Fugelsang) | Ep. 58

What happens when Christianity gets weaponized for political gain? When culture wars hijack the gospel of love? In this episode, we unpack John Fugelsang's book, Separation of Church and Hate, exploring why following...
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The Fellowship of Guilt | Ep. 57

What if doing the right thing still made you guilty? Dietrich Bonhoeffer believed that following Jesus sometimes meant stepping straight into the mess—into what he called “the fellowship of guilt.” But was he right?...
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Hell Bent (with Brian Recker) | Ep. 56

What happens when Christians start rethinking the very idea of hell? In this episode of Cabernet and Pray, we sit down with Brian Recker to ask the questions many of us were told we weren’t allowed to ask. Is hell...
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Downsizing Evangelicalism (with Michelle Van Loon) | Ep. 55

What if the shrinking of evangelicalism isn’t a crisis to be feared but an opportunity to rediscover something truer, leaner, and more like Jesus? In this episode, I sit down with author Michelle Van Loon to talk...
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The Water Had Not Yet Turned into Wine | Ep. 54

What if you’re not the same person you used to be—and that’s exactly the point? In this episode, I explore the strange and beautiful truth that growth requires us to let old versions of ourselves fade away, like water...
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